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Dahnel · May 12, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22

Ok eversince i saw the tengu warriors for the first time i'v wanted to use my sword backhand style too. Maybe Anet could implement some different styles that you could earn (much like titles but more practical) through doing quests or perhaps have certain swords that can only be used backhanded ... well just an idea wondered if anyone else would be interested in this kind of thing

Aera · May 12, 2006, 02:38 PM // 14:38

Yeah it looks pretty cool, but the tengu's have like small knifes, I don't see my character swinging my fellblade backhanded :P

HawkofStorms · May 12, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45

Brute swords and Katanas are small?
I agree. It looks really cool.

BahamutKaiser · May 12, 2006, 03:42 PM // 15:42

They could just make it were certain swords are used backhanded, or can be used backhand with the use of a simple equiptment selection addition.

I think it would be better if they just let us use tengu, backhanded slash, feathers and all :P

Dahnel · May 12, 2006, 03:45 PM // 15:45

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Originally Posted by BahamutKaiser

I think it would be better if they just let us use tengu, backhanded slash, feathers and all :P

hell yes

lyra_song · May 12, 2006, 03:55 PM // 15:55

When I was helping my guildie cap in mineral, the Avicara warrior boss was holding a Fellblade :P

Holding a sword the way the tengus do looks cool, but its not very practical for cutting. Only for knives or really short swords.

But like i said, it looks cool ^^ i actually photoshopped my warrior to doing it. I think it would be pretty easy for Anet to implement. Just create a few weapons that are inverted. Maybe some unique green short swords.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0&postcount=13

Arkantos · May 12, 2006, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by Aera

Yeah it looks pretty cool, but the tengu's have like small knifes, I don't see my character swinging my fellblade backhanded :P

ha, fellblade would be hella funny

Leon_Ux-ixen · May 12, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Heres a little weapon tip backhanding a weapon is very practical for heavy weapons. In some cases you'll find it eaiser to swing, far as cutting power theres no real difference there. Many samurai back in 1400-1700 Japan backhand katans not just for deflecting multiple blades but also to cut down enemies when surronded.

Heres why heavy weapon backhanding makes more sence when you hold a sword of heavy weight. (RL: claymore, bastard sword, igame: fellblade and wicked) Up or hold at an angel you put alot of pressure on your upper arms and shoulders. Thus tiring thoseimprtant areas much quicker and it takes more time to swing and recover from a heavy swing then it does to backhanding. When you backhand turning and swerving while the blade is mid high is very effective if one spins in a circle it will allow you to pick up enough force to lift the blade higher making the threat range much deadler.

So i'd say if this tech was to be added it would have minor effects on the blades you weild and backhand. For example

Katanas/shorts/longs/: Increase your chance to block attacks.
Wicked/Fellblade/Longsword/Scimitar: Increases the speed but lowers the damage slighty considering fell and long have no curve for sup cutting or air resist unlike the wicked and scimitar that would gain a damage+.

Dahnel · May 13, 2006, 08:17 AM // 08:17

also i believe the point of backhanded style is that you dont need alot of room to swing your blade from the draw at close quarters like you would with forearm style.

plz anet add this !

Buoyancy · May 13, 2006, 10:01 AM // 10:01

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Originally Posted by Leon_Ux-ixen

Heres why heavy weapon backhanding makes more sence when you hold a sword of heavy weight. (RL: claymore, bastard sword, igame: fellblade and wicked) Up or hold at an angel you put alot of pressure on your upper arms and shoulders.

Why on earth would any non-suicidal person hold their sword so that you can't use it to parry? Do you have any sources to back up this claim? There are virtually no real swords that weigh more than 5 pounds, and most two-handed swords weighed between three and four pounds or less. I see no reason why any reasonably fit person would want to make it completely impossible to parry any attack from the front.

mega_jamie · May 13, 2006, 10:10 AM // 10:10

Assassins should be backhanding alot

and warriors would look cool with some swords backhanded.

but think of balance issues!! we need backhand bows and wands too :S

Lexar · May 13, 2006, 01:11 PM // 13:11

They would probably have to remake animations for it, and that is very time consuming. I think the best way to put this in the game would be to make this only an aestetic thing. Only certain swords are held backhand style, like a gothic sword would look silly backhanded, but a katana could work. If they're going for a north african maybe bordering to an arab influence for chapter 3 they could make swords for it, like in prince of persia warrior within.

Stockholm · May 13, 2006, 03:50 PM // 15:50

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Originally Posted by Buoyancy

Why on earth would any non-suicidal person hold their sword so that you can't use it to parry? Do you have any sources to back up this claim? There are virtually no real swords that weigh more than 5 pounds, and most two-handed swords weighed between three and four pounds or less. I see no reason why any reasonably fit person would want to make it completely impossible to parry any attack from the front.

A Claymoor or a Broadsword weighs in at 20lbs +,
a Saber at about 8lbs, Katana 6-10lbs + depending on lenght.
3-4 lbs is what a hilt and pommel on a broadsword weighs.

And as far as parrying an attack from the front, you get a treamedous speed in a backhand side slash + plus the sword is allready to the side ready to swing, saving time.

Symbol · May 13, 2006, 05:09 PM // 17:09

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A Claymoor or a Broadsword weighs in at 20lbs +,
a Saber at about 8lbs, Katana 6-10lbs + depending on lenght.
3-4 lbs is what a hilt and pommel on a broadsword weighs.

ROFL. The average claymore is 5-7 lbs...the rest of your numbers are similarly inaccurate.

Buoyancy · May 13, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

A Claymoor or a Broadsword weighs in at 20lbs +,
a Saber at about 8lbs, Katana 6-10lbs + depending on lenght.
3-4 lbs is what a hilt and pommel on a broadsword weighs.

No, the heaviest greatsword known weighs in at 14 pounds, but is a ceremonial weapon not designed for fighting. A real fighting two-handed sword weighed about 5 pounds, or maybe 7 pounds in very rare cases. These are actual measured weights, not the weights based on wankery by katana fanboys.

http://www.thearma.org/essays/weights.htm
http://www.thearma.org/essays/2HGS.html

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And as far as parrying an attack from the front, you get a treamedous speed in a backhand side slash + plus the sword is allready to the side ready to swing, saving time.

This is asinine. All somebody would have to do to kill you is a single lunge because you have no way to parry their sword without rotating your entire body. Or are you going to tell me that professional baseball players have no clue what they are doing, and would get both better speed, and better accuracy if they held their baseball bats upside down?

Stockholm · May 13, 2006, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Sorry. What is baseall?

Dark Suoon · May 13, 2006, 07:08 PM // 19:08

u kno i like it for tengus mostly for a odd reason

and they should add tengu as a new class, it would be very cool

Nightwish · May 13, 2006, 07:23 PM // 19:23

Backhanded baseball swing, heh..i would like to see that

lyra_song · May 13, 2006, 08:04 PM // 20:04

I love how people who have dont have practical weapon experience jump into these kind of threads and throw all kinds of silliness around .-.

Theres no martial art or fighting technique that holds a Sword upsidedown. Holding the blade upsidedown is only practical in knife fighting, specifically stabbing techniques. Large weapons cannot benefit and only hinder in this position.

Rancour · May 13, 2006, 08:55 PM // 20:55

Does anyone happen to know what an average hand-and-a-half sword weighs?

Not that I can imagine anyone using one of those backhanded...